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The Kratom Bible – Your Definitive Guide to Kratom
About Kratom
Native to the Southeast Asia, kratom (Mitragyna Speciosa) is a powerful medicinal plant used by thousands throughout the world.
The medicinal potentials of this plant are vast.
And the most prominent of these include: pain relief, mood lifting, energy and immune system stimulation.
Below, we’ll go through everything from strains, and effects to the alkaloids that make kratom so effective.
…Here we go.
Origins & Locale
The use of kratom goes back several thousand years, but it was first formally documented growing abundantly in Thailand by Dutch botanist Pieter Willem Korthals in the early 19th century.
While the birthplace of Mitragyna Speciosa is unknown, it has flourished abundantly in Southeast Asia and Indochina — growing naturally in regions such as:
- Thailand
- Indonesia
- Sumatra
- Bali
- Java
- The Sunda Isles
- Borneo
- Malaysia
As a result of adapting to these different climates and regions, this plant has evolved and diverged into a variety of strains and vein types, each of which vary in both in effects and potency.
It is these differences that have made kratom such an incredibly versatile plant.
Further on, we will cover these strain differences at length to give you a strong understanding of the varied uses, effects, and potential applications of this unique plant.
What is Kratom Used for?
Kratom is used for:
- Pain relief
- Mood-lifting
- Energy Promotion
- Anxiolytic (Anti-Anxiety)
- Insomnia Relief
- Appetite suppression
- Focus
Other known qualities of kratom include:
- Immune System Stimulant
- Anti-leukemic
- Anti-malarial
- Anti-inflammatory
- Lowered blood sugar
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In addition to this large range of medicinal applications, this plant also has many other positive properties such as high-antioxidant (EGC) and vitamin and mineral content, which has made it an item of interest for general health purposes as well.
Pain Relief
Kratom’s pain-killing effects are very pronounced, and are much more effective than OTC substances when dealing with chronic pain.
It is these potent pain-killing effects that have allowed many to become entirely pharmaceutical free (an inspiringly common event within the kratom community).
As public awareness increases and fear-mongering and outright disinformation dissipate, you can expect to see this plant as a common alternative to riskier treatments.
Kratom can effectively reduce pain from conditions such as:
- Migraines and Cluster Headaches
- Back Pain
- Minor Injuries: Burns, Scrapes, Broken Bones
- Multiple Sclerosis
- Neck Pain & Soreness
- General Neuropathic Pain [2]
Because kratom’s pain relieving effects occur largely within the brain, it is able to effectively dampen any almost any pain signal.
For this reason, taking kratom for pain tends to be far more versatile and powerful for pain relief, as it can mitigate pain at the perceptual “root”.
Strains for Pain
The primary reason kratom is so effective for pain are it’s two primary painkilling alkaloids: Mitragynine, and 7-OH-mitragynine [3].
Both have agonist activity brain receptors responsible for dampening the body’s perception of pain at the source.
As a result, those who are looking for pain relief from kratom will get the best effects by using strains high in these two alkaloids.
What is the Best Kratom for Pain?
The most effective kratom strains for pain include: Red Indo, Red Bali, Red Borneo, and Red Maeng Da. Green vein strains are also some fo the best for pain, but their pain relieving effects can be less reliable than Red Vein alternatives.
Best Strains for Pain
Preferred Vein Color
- Red
- Green
Dosage
- Moderate/High
For this purpose, red veined strains tend to be the most reliable for pain relieving effects, although a good green vein can be just as effective.
It should be noted, that because green veins tend to be more strongly influenced by the effects of the given strain.
So one should stick to the characteristically pain relieving varieties mentioned above, such as Indo, Bali or Borneo if using green vein strains.
Psychological Effects (Anxiety, Stress relief and Mood-Lifting)
The psychological effects of kratom are of a very unique quality in comparison to other plants found in nature, as the plant contains both sedating and stimulating properties.
And nearly any quality strain can cause general mood-lifting, but the differences in strain can shift the spectrum of effects between stimulating and sedating, which can largely change the qualities of the experience.
Anxiety and Stress Relief
In order to maximize anxiety relief with kratom, you will likely be best suited to a strong and sedating strain such as an Borneo or Indo.
But other sedating strains can often work effectively.
In our experience, borneo kratom strains have generally been the most effective for relieving stress and restlessness without causing a level of tiredness or brain fog that some varieties of strains like Bali can sometimes cause at high dosages.
For those with insomnia in conjunction with anxiety, they can also double as a great kratom strain for sleep.
What is the Best Kratom for Anxiety and Stress?
The best kratom strains for anxiety and stress are all red vein strains, particularly: Red Bali, Red Borneo and Red Indo. The reason these strains are rated among the best kratom for anxiety and stress is due to their high levels of 7-OHM and other sedative alkaloids. These alkaloids provide these strains relaxing character.
Strains for Anxiety and Stress Relief
Preferred Vein Color
- Red
- Green
Dosage
- Moderate
Immune System Stimulation
Due to the immunostimulant alkaloids found in kratom:
- Isopteropodine
- Isorhynchophylline
- Isomitraphylline
- Mitraphylline
From preliminary evidence, it appears kratom can be effective for boosting the immune system.
And this can be effective for conditions ranging from the common cold to the flu, although more research will be required to be certain. [4].
Because of this, some users have started to take it at the onset of a sickness in an attempt to reduce its duration (as well as negate some of its symptoms).
Strains
- Green Malaysian
- Borneo
Preferred Vein Color
- Green Vein
Dosage
- – Moderate – Low
Because the research in this regard is lacking, the strain choices above are only defined by the limited regions that were studied.
So many other varieties of kratom may have similar immunostimulant properties as well.
Nootropic (Cognition Enhancing) Effects
Nootropic substances are a relatively new field of interest which shows much promise.
Interestingly, some have reported good results by using kratom as a nootropic in areas such as focus and motivation.
Unlike traditional medications for focus (e.g. ADHD medication), the subjective experience of kratom for many is that it doesn’t make your focus “stick” psychologically.
Instead, many have noted it seems to dampen psychological background noise resulting from stress, anxiety or excessive excitement/restlessness, promoting natural focus ability.
In this way it tends to lend itself to a more natural feeling quality of focus.
Because strain differences can vary, there is typically no set dose for peak cognition boosting effects — though it typically ranges from low/medium to medium.
Best Strains for Nootropic Effects
Preferred Vein Color
- White
- Green
Dosage
- Low – Moderate
If you choose to try a green vein strain, we would suggest a more stimulating variety, such as those mentioned above, at a low dosage, as large doses can sometimes be counterproductive.
Strain Comparison
Due to different growth regions and breeding, kratom has evolved into a variety of different strains which can have very different effects.
There are roughly three primary effect categories one can divide strains into: stimulating, sedating and moderate.
It should be noted that every plant within a strain can vary, so in no way are these analyses set in stone.
Rather we have taken a more psuedo-statistical approach, based upon large amounts of individual user experience reports to provide a guide to the general strain characteristics.
Stimulating Strains
Stimulating strains are some of the most desirable strains for those with fatigue or lethargy, as well as for those who need to sustain energy and focus for long periods of time.
Thai Kratom
Thai kratom is well-known for its powerful energetic effects.
The unique alkaloid profile of Thai kratom often provokes different reactions between different users, and may not be for everyone.
However, this strain has a very dedicated following, unlike anything we have seen with other varieties of kratom.
It’s important to note that the pain-killing effects of Thai can vary.
Typically, red vein thai (commonly called RVT) is the most effective in regards to analgesia, whereas white and green vein thai strains, while stimulating, are often lacking in this area.
Thai Effects
Maeng Da Kratom
Maeng Da has been widely renowned as one of the most potent strains of kratom
…and for good reason — it can provide both high levels of pain relief and stimulation.
This strain is ideal for those with pain who don’t want to sacrifice energy levels, as well as those who are looking for a mood-boost.
Maeng Da Effects
Sedating Strains
As a whole, sedating strains are lacking in the more stimulating alkaloids contained in the Thai/Maeng Da strains of kratom.
Yet, they can pack a very large punch as far as pain relief is concerned due to their large concentrations of 7-hydroxymitragynine.
And so these strains have been traditionally used for chronic pain and mood-lifting.
Borneo Kratom
A high-quality borneo strain, especially a red vein borneo, is one of the most unique and you will find in nature.
They are highly sedating, great for pain relief, and unparalleled for anxiety/stress relief.
Borneo strains also tend to have a low side-effect factor in comparison to other strains with similar characteristics.
You can often distinguish a borneo by its relaxing and “clean” feeling quality although a few varieties of Indo have been known to have this quality as well.
Borneo Effects
Bali Kratom
Bali kratom is one of the most economical strains due to large leaves and quick growth.
Proper dosage for some Bali strains can be difficult, as they are known for their fairly low “wobble” threshold. Though many have found one can minimize this negative by mixing it with another strain.
Bali Effects
Indo Kratom
Indo strains are very well-rounded for pain and have less side-effects than comparable Balinese strains, and share quite a few qualities in common with strains such as riau and sumatra.
Although borneo as well is a variety of Indo, it has some unique characteristics.
Many have reported delayed effects from many types of Indo kratom, which is likely due to the leaves tough cell-walls, similar to Green Malaysian strains.
While the effects are similar to Borneo kratom strains on paper, regular users may notice some of the subtle but very notable differences experience.
Indo Effects
Moderate Strains
Many prefer a moderate strain as their daily go-to, due to its potent, yet smooth, effects.
And of these, one of the most common moderate strains is Green Malaysian.
When using moderate strains, it is good to remember that the interplay between strains, vein types, breeding and growing conditions can make a characteristically sedating or stimulating strain moderate.
Green Malaysian
Green Malaysian has long been known as one of the longest-lasting strains due to leaf cell-wall density.
Some have experienced nootropic effects from this strain.
Particularly, increased mental endurance, providing focus for long periods of time.
Interestingly, due to the quality of these effects, they may only noticed in retrospect due to the strain’s characteristically smooth and natural feeling effects.
Green Malaysian Effects
Vein Types: Effects & Analysis
Something unique to this plant, in comparison to many other medicinal plants, is the distinct differences of vein color which result from breeding and growth conditions.
These different vein colors often correspond to very reliable differences in effects and can provide strong clues as to what to expect from a given strain.
However, there are some minor exceptions, especially when dealing with strains with a less balanced alkaloid profile such as Thai, or Borneo/Indo strains which on the whole provide a more polarized kratom experience (being more stimulating or sedating, respectively).
Red Vein Kratom
Red vein kratom is one of the most popular due to its natural tendency toward higher levels of 7-hydroxymitragynine.
This leads to impressive pain-killing effects, sedation, as well as anxiety and stress relief.
Red veins also tends to be less at the mercy of individual brain chemistry; whereas white and green vein strains often effect people variably.
This is one of the reasons red vein thai (RVT) is so popular among kratom users.
It combines both strong energy from it’s Thai influences, with the red vein’s painkilling effects — leaving the strain stimulating but very well-rounded.
Red Vein Kratom Effects
White Vein Kratom
Despite the lower amount of 7-hydroxymitragynine found in white vein strains, this vein type should not be treated lightly.
White vein kratom has a very strong following, and many have found it very effective for conditions such as lack of focus/energy.
Of all the vein types, white vein shows the most potential as a nootropic (cognition enhancing) substance.
As such, many have found that using this vein type first thing in the morning to be a great substitute for coffee due to its strong effects on alertness and focus.
White Vein Kratom Effects
Green Vein Kratom
For those who prefer neither the sedation of red veins, or the stimulation of white veins, green vein kratom may be the best solution.
Green vein strains are (on average) much more moderate in their effects than other the other vein varieties.
And for that reason, they can provide the best of both worlds, making them great choice for regular daily usage.
However, green veins tend to be much more easily influenced by individual strain differences, making them the most variable vein type in regard to effects.
Green Vein Kratom Effects
Extract Guide
While typically not as well-rounded as the plain leaf in effects, kratom extracts can certainly serve a purpose for those with chronic pain or other debilitating conditions in which the plain leaf will not suffice.
There are a large variety of different types of extracts with varying effects, based upon both the method of extraction as well as the base plant material used to make them. Read below to learn about these different extract types.
Water-Based Extracts
Water-based kratom extracts are by far the most common variety.
As the name implies, the extract is performed by: dissolving a portion of alkaloids into water, straining the powder, and evaporating the water.
This process leaves a brownish, more alkaloid-concentrated version of the plain leaf behind.
Water extracts are commonly referred to with an ‘x’ (e.g. 10x, 25x), which implies how much plain leaf material was used to create the same weight of resulting extract.
Sadly, these figures are nearly always incorrect due to vendor dishonesty.
Pros:
- More alkaloid-concentrated than plain leaf
- Can be used in addition to plain leaf to potentiate effects
- Relatively side-effect free in comparison to resin and full-spectrum extracts
- More stimulating than the plain-leaf base material
- Ability to dissolve in water
Cons:
- Must be taken in conjunction with some plain leaf for best effects
- Not a well-rounded extract in terms of effects (less pain-killing effect and sedation)
- High price per potency
- Can increase tolerance rapidly
Kratom Resin Extracts
In comparison to water-based extractions, kratom resin extractions have a much more well-rounded profile of effects.
These extracts are typically performed by extracting kratom with both a polar solvent and a non-polar solvent. A simple example of this would be water and ethanol.
Like the water extract, the powder is strained and the alkaloid saturated non-polar/polar solvent is left to dry.
Pros:
- Full-spectrum of effects
- Ease of use
- Easy storage
- High potency per weight
Cons:
- More expensive than plain leaf
- Side-effects to potency ratio comparable to plain leaf
- Temperature sensitive (melts in minor heat)
Kratom Tinctures
Unlike the other forms of extracts, kratom tinctures can vary in their method of extraction and their potency; because of this, buying them from an disreputable source can leave one disappointed.
On the other hand, when they are done well, they can be quite potent.
Pros:
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Ease of Use - Fast-acting
- Convenience of storage
Cons:
- Typically expensive
- Variable Potency
- Rarely provide a full-spectrum of effects
- Rapid development of tolerance
Enhanced Leaf
Enhanced leaf has become the go-to choice of many extract users due to it’s high potency and lack of side effects.
Enhanced leaf is used by taking a highly potent kratom extract, dissolving it in a solution, soaking kratom leaves/powder in this solution and letting it dry.
When done correctly, this method can create a highly potent leaf.
One of the most popular enhanced leaf blends of our era is known as UEI (Ultra Enhanced Indo).
Pros:
- Very potent when done well
- Lack of side-effects per potency
- Typically well-rounded
- Highly effective for pain
Cons:
- Rapid development of tolerance
- Relatively high price
Kratom’s Alkaloids
The reason for the difference in effects from strain to strain is the variability of kratom’s alkaloids; in fact, there are over 28 identified alkaloids found within the plant with different half-lives and durations.
For more information on these alkaloids, their effects, and their content (% of total alkaloid weight, one standard deviation), refer below [4]:
- 7-hydroxymitragynine – Analgesic/painkiller, antidiarrheal, antitussive – 1.5 – 2.5%
- Mitragynine – Analgesic/painkiller, antidiarrheal, antitussive, adrenergic receptor agonist (mild stimulant), antimalarial – 40 – 75% [Lowest recorded content: 12%]
- Speciogynine – Smooth Muscle Relaxer – 6.5 – 7.2%
- Mitraphylline – Muscle relaxer, vasodilator, anti-hypertensive, anti-amnesic, immune system stimulant, anti-leukemic – less than 1%
- Epicatechin (EGC) – Antioxidant, antiviral, anti-mutagenic, anti-leukemic, anti inflammatory, anti-diabetic. Commonly found in green tea. – 1%
- 9-Hydroxycorynantheidine – Painkiller/analgesic – 1%
- Corynantheidine – less than 1%
- Isomitraphylline – Immune System Stimulant – less than 1%
- Isomitrafoline – Immune System Stimulant – less than 1%
- Isorhynchophylline – Immune System Stimulant – less than 1%
- Isopteropodine – Immune System Stimulant – less than 1%
- Ciliaphylline – Analgesic, antitussive – less than 1%
- Corynoxine A – Dopamine Mediator – less than 1%
- Corynoxine B – Dopamine Mediator – less than 1%
- Ajmalicine – Sedative (Anti-Adrenergic), increase blood flow to brain, smooth muscle relaxer – less than 1%
- Rhynchophylline – Anti-inflammatory, vasodilator, anti-hypertensive – less than 1%
- Speciociliatine – less than 1%
- Speciophylline – Anti-leukemic – less than 1%
- Tetrahydroalstonine – Anti-adrenergic, lowers blood sugar – less than 1%
- Akuammigine – inactive – less than 1%
- Mitrafoline – inactive – less than 1%
- Mitraversine – inactive – less than 1%
- Speciofoline – inactive – less than 1%
- Stipulatine – inactive – less than 1%
Respected kratom researchers such as Takayama H, Shellard EJ, Raymond-Hamet, Becket AH, Philipson JD and Lee CM, have shown that the alkaloid profiles of the plants from different regions vary heavily.
Many suspect that Thai strains, contain more mitragynine than average.
And Malaysian strains, have proportionally lower levels of mitragynine, suggesting its potency may be due to relatively higher levels of 7-hydroxymitragynine.
These differences in alkaloid profile are what make each strain unique and effective in quite different ways.
Yet there is still much research to be done until we have a complete understanding of the varied effects of different leaf alkaloid profiles.
Traditional Dosage
Dosage has been a key factor for those looking for specific effects.
By dosing too low, the medicinal capabilities are nulled, while dosing too high can often lead to relatively harmless, but potentially unpleasant side-effects, such as the “wobbles” and minor nausea.
Average Dosage by Grams
- Mild – 1 to 2 grams
- Moderate – 2-4.5 grams
- High – 4.5 – 8 grams
Average Dosage by Teaspoon
- Mild – .5 to .9 tsp
- Moderate – 1 to 2 tsp
- High – 2 to 3.5 tsp
It should be noted that due to varying potency between strains and plants, this estimate is in no way standardized, instead it an estimate based on historical and experiential reports.
Doses at the the “high” end of the spectrum are also much more likely to cause side-effects, depending upon the strain.
Dosage Intervals
For best effect, many have found that this plant should not be taken in high doses regularly, as some of the medicinal effects can diminish.
However, those who use this plant to combat chronic pain may find this inevitable, as pain doesn’t operate in a convenient time-cycle.
Strain Differences
Differences between strains is a factor that can’t be overlooked when calculating a dosage. There are a few primary strains that should be dosed relatively lower than the average, these strains are:
- Maeng Da – Potent, active at lower doses
- Bali – Side effects encountered at lower doses in comparison to other strains
- Thai – Can be overstimulating for some at higher doses
Because of this, it is a good idea to modify dosage with these strains accordingly in order to achieve best results.
Some strains, such as Borneo, can be dosed relatively higher, due to their lack of side-effects.
Because of this variability in strains, it is advisable to start low with any new or unknown strain.
Effects By Dosage
Something that is frequently encountered with a variety of strains is the difference in effects at differing doses.
Although this varies depending upon the strain and where you buy kratom, typically, lower doses are relatively more stimulating than higher doses.
While the cause of this is not well known, it likely has to do with the the diminishing returns of stimulating alkaloids in comparison to 7-hydroxymitragynine.
For anyone inexperienced with kratom, it is essential to know about the philosophy, theory and advice regarding kratom dosage in order to get the ideal effects.
The “Less is More” Theory
The “less is more” theory is very popular among kratom forums, and there is some evidence to back this theory.
Almost every strain has an optimal dose for both medicinal and euphoric effects, and dosage above this ideal threshold can have paradoxical effects.
Now, it’s important to note that different strains have differing levels of this alkaloid, so if this common experiences is a result of this alkaloid, it this statement may not apply to all strains — however, the majority of strains seem to be affected.
The “less is more” theory, is also advisable because lower dosage also creates less tolerance to effects, which can help maintain the plant’s medicinal potential over time.
Empty Stomach
As plain leaf has to be digested in order to have medicinal benefit, many have found it to be best taken on an empty stomach, as this will ensure the effects are delivered quickly and reliably.
In addition to taking kratom on an empty stomach, many have found that some foods seem to not only delay the effects of kratom, but nullify them almost entirely.
Because eating is a necessity, it may not always be possible to use it in this manner; for this reason, many have turned to kratom tea to deliver effects more quickly and reliably.
Kratom Preparation – Traditional and Modern Methods
Throughout the thousands of years kratom has been used, preparation methods have remained relatively the same; however, as western society has interacted with this plant, there have been some unique additions — recipes and methods to fit our unique needs.
The Kratom Quid
The quid is the original method of kratom use for Southeast Asian cultures, especially Thailand.
The quid method of use involves taking fresh kratom leaves (a rare commodity in the western world), removing the stems and veins in one quick motion, bundling the kratom and chewing it while holding the saliva and chewed leaf material in their mouth.
The quid works through mostly sublingual methods, however, the swallowed portion also has a considerable effect.
Toss and Wash Method
One of the most common kratom preparation methods, if it could be called preparation at all, is the toss ‘n’ wash.
This method is typically done by:
- Putting water (or other liquid) in the mouth
- Adding desired kratom dose to this water
- Submerging and mixing the kratom/water mixture within the mouth to avoid dry particles getting caught in the mouth and throat
- Taking another gulp of water while simultaneously swallowing the mixture
- Chasing with more water to get down any debris
Kratom Tea
This is another very common preparation method, both in the west and east. Learning how to make kratom tea is fairly simple:
- Add water to pot (3-10 ounces)
- Add desired kratom dose
- Simmer for 15 – 45 minutes (20 minutes typically suffices)
- Optional: strain powder
Tea is considered effective by many because of the quick onset of effects; however, by straining out the powder, one may lose the full alkaloid spectrum of the plain leaf, reducing some medicinal potentials.
Tea Tips
- Adding water to kratom powder and freezing prior to making tea can increase the amount of alkaloids absorbed
- Adding lemon juice, or small amounts of citric acid can also increase amount of alkaloids absorbed
- One can salvage the strained powder from tea and reuse it to ensure no alkaloids are wasted
Kratom Tea Recipes
Because some are more sensitive to the bitter taste of kratom tea, many tea recipes have been developed. One of the most effective we have seen for masking the taste of kratom is to mix it with a flavoring, or mixture.
Speciosa Chai
One of the most effective kratom recipes we have found is what we have heard called “Speciosa Chai”. This method is very simple and is composed of a few simple steps:
- Condense kratom tea to 3-4 ounces
- Add 4-5 ounces of Chai tea mixture
- Add sugar & cream/milk if desired
There are a variety of different chai mixtures one can experiment with; however, the Tazo Organic Chai Black Tea mix is the favorite we have seen at an associated kava bar in our area.
Simple Flavorings
Something that we have seen to be surprisingly effective at masking the taste are pump flavorings– especially the fruit-based flavorings. You can find these pump flavorings at local coffee shops or online for a very reasonable cost.
Mixtures & Blends
Another common method that has been more recently for those who don’t want to toss ‘n’ wash or make tea, is to mix kratom. Some of the most common mixers we have heard are:
- Yogurt
- Applesauce
- Peanut Butter
- Honey
- Juice
- Chocolate Milk
Mixing kratom with these has the added benefit of allowing it to be taken while minimizing the taste, however, with some of these it may take longer to digest.
Another creative method we have heard is to kratom with peanut butter to form little peanut butter balls to swallow. Nearly any decent tasting drink/mixture can be effective.
Additionally, tools such as blender bottles, commonly used for protein shakes, have been suggested for this process.
Kratom Capsules
A common form of kratom preparation is by capping the kratom powder rather than taking it whole, mixed or in tea form. Kratom capsules have the benefit of being easy to use.
Considerations
Buying capsules can be extremely expensive in comparison to powder, and kratom capsules (especially the variety sold by less reputable companies at shady stores and gas stations) that have had a big part in giving kratom a bad name.
Also, when buying these capsules you don’t really know what you’re getting, as it isn’t an approved dietary supplement
…and this could lead to dangers for both the user, and kratom’s legality.
Because of this, anyone who wants to keep kratom legal should avoid buying kratom capsules.
There are a large variety of capsule tools, such as “The Capsule Machine” and “Cap m Quick”, which can make capsules in bulk (and save you a tremendous amount of money over time in the process).
Reducing Kratom Tolerance
Kratom tolerance is the number one impediment when looking to ensure peak medicinal effects. Besides taking this plant less frequently, there are some tricks one can use to keep tolerance low.
Strain Rotation
Many have found strain rotation is a great way to keep the medicinal effects of kratom fresh.
When using a specific strain for a long period, you can develop a tolerance to its specific alkaloid profile; however, by switching strains regularly, the alkaloid levels many not remain stable enough to develop a complete tolerance to the effects.
Methods
- Rotation by Effects – This method involves using alternating strains types (e.g. Mon. – Sedating, Tues. – Stimulating, Weds. – Sedating)
- Rotation by Vein Color – Similar to the above method, this involves rotating by vein color (e.g. Mon. – Red, Tues. – White, Weds. – Green)
By using these methods, one can ensure that the alkaloid profiles are as varied as possible on consecutive days or periods, which can keep tolerance at bay for a longer period of time.
Note: Stem and vein kratom is often used as a substitute to further reduce tolerance, as its alkaloid profile is typically very different than the plain leaf.
However, although using this technique to it’s fullest requires 3-5+ different strains, this method of tolerance reduction can still be somewhat beneficial with 2 or 3 varieties.
Supplementation
There are a variety of other ways to supplement tolerance reduction, including:
- Magnesium
Magnesium supplementation is a great way to keep kratom tolerance low due to its NMDA antagonist effects, which helps regulate how the brain and body react to frequent exposure to these compounds [5].
- Exercise
Exercise is a very effective yet under rated method of reducing tolerance. Exercise’s reduction of tolerance is cumulative, meaning the more you exercise, and the more in shape you are, the less tolerance is developed, which potentiates the medicinal effects of kratom.
The Infamous “Wobbles”
The “Wobbles” is a term that was coined within kratom communities to describe the most prominent side effect of kratom, especially Bali strains.
The wobbles are defined by the difficulty to refocus the eyes at a specific point without strain and annoyance; this effect can lead to headaches and nausea.
While the wobbles are not much more than an annoyance, driving or operating other heavy machinery while experiencing the wobbles is dangerous, and should never be attempted.
Avoiding the Wobbles
The easiest way to avoid the wobbles is to keep dosage below the side effect threshold. This threshold can vary between strains and plants. Typically, doses under 5 grams will generally prevent the wobbles, although there are some exceptions
Strains by Wobble Factor
Note: It is much more rare to experience the wobbles with strained kratom tea; leading many to believe that it is an effect that may be caused by one of the fat-soluble alkaloids.
Combating the Wobbles
While there is not much information available on combating the wobbles, there are a few things that can help in the process.
- Activated Charcoal – This supplement is one of the most effective ways to get rid of the wobbles; it works by adsorbing a portion of the wobble-causing alkaloids, negating the effects almost entirely.
- Food/Carbonated Drinks – While these won’t help get rid of the wobbles, they can speed up digestion, allowing the symptoms to pass more quickly (if inevitable).
[1] https://books.google.com/books?id=BtPMBQAAQBAJ&dq=mitragynine+malarial&lr=
[2] https://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/348/3/383.short
[3] https://jaoa.org/article.aspx?articleid=2094342
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Thank you for this info. I have just started using K and so far so good, i add 1 tablespoon of powder to a glass of juice & the relief I feel comes quite quickly.
I’m asking permission to share this on my personal face book page. Thanks, Nancy
Thanks! I’m ordering today.
Where do I buy this? Do i have to wean off my oxycodone first?
Are you still wondering where to find a good trusted vendor? If you are, I can help. This plant has helped me so much. I used to be an alcoholic and opiate abuser and now I’m free from both. Praise the lord!
Hi Copby. I am interested in knowing a good, trusted vendor. Can you tell me where to look?
What vendor do you use ? I’ve used several different ones and had both negative and positive experiences but I’d like to find a good trusted vendor so I’ll know I’m getting exactly what I ordered. Find me in Facebook.
I’m a addict myself alcoholic and opiates for many years , I tried kratom and it really helped me ,I need to know a trusted web site to buy from can you help??
Where do you get yours? My 28 year old daughter is an (hopefully) ex- meth and heroine user. And alcoholic. She hs been through a lot and we are wondering if this may help avoid relapses and help her live a happier life. She seems to have a lot of pain in her joints which keeps her from achieving much in her life and depression seems to follow suit with this.
I am also looking for a trusted vendor, could you direct me from your experience?
Thanks
Copby Ive been on norco since 2001 and now iam so addicted that if I dont have it I go straight to withdrawals.Pls need your help as to who I can purchase kratom frm and what kind of kratom you used to kick the opium habit. Iam at the end of the line and slowly giving up. My depression has kept me at home for the last 2 yrs. I gave up going out to socialize and confined myself to the bedroom. Need your input want to start living again.Your help with what to use and where to purchase kratom will be a blessing. Thank you Lee
Yes please can u tell where you bought your kratom.
i have been taking Norco 10/325 for 18 years. Just take your last dose and prepare yourself mentally. Kratom will take care of the rest. The strand that helped me is Bali and Malay. Best of luck! You can do it! Imagine living a life free of opiates no longer a slave to life threatning chemicals. I had to take my Norcos for my debilitating pain. Kratom is now the answer for me. our prayers are with all you, who like me have been dupped and addicted by Doctors and Rx labs.
It’s “strain” not strand, I can’t figure out why people say that. Strand is a genetic related term. Strain:”Strain (biology), variants of plants, viruses or bacteria; or an inbred animal used for experimental purposes”
Really Rodney, really? Sounds like your a little uptight, will a certain species, type, form, sort, variety, kind, breed, brand, form, sort, style, variety,or class of Mitragyna speciosa help you manage your symptoms? Will it Roooodney?
Yea, I’m currently on 6 medications for nerve pain and anxiety/depression. I drank for years trying to self medicate and go in public as the pills never worked. Now they not only don’t work but they are causing side effects. Kratom and cannabis oil are my only hopes in being able to live a half-way normal life but cannabis oil is still illegal here and kratom is now under attack by the DEA. That’s how things go when money and power mix in a government and health industry. $3 a prescription for any pill prescription I want but kratom and cannabis are $100’s and threatened to be illegal when they are the darn plants growing out of the ground.
This Country really bothers me when they don’t take care of their veterans or the disabled. I’m 34 and still waiting after listening and doing all they have told me to my whole life and I just want relief so I don’t have to think about needing to die every day.
No u don’t have to. I quit taking suboxone and replaced it with kratom 20 days ago. I went overkill on the amount I took for the first week but I didn’t get sick like normal. You can quit taking the pills and just start eating kratom every time u feel like shit…until u don’t feel like shit anymore..there’s also a step by step on howtoquitheroin. Com called plan k you could use to quit the pain meds..hope this helps
Hello, how do you know how much to order when you are just starting ?
Thank you
This has been BY FAR the most helpful & informative page I’ve found on kratom. Thank you for posting this! I was wondering about mixing my maeng da & red vein Borneo for both the anelgesic & energetic properties, as I am coming off of a low dose of suboxone, after too may years of this mess! Thanks…
I’m interested sampling kratom. I’ve heard about it for years but never had a chance to try it. Would like to now.
thanks!!
Kim
This is by far the best and complete resource I have come across for all thing kratom. Thank you.
I just need to know where to get started… ugh… Between Fibro, CFS, and DDD with of coarse the bulging discs everywhere at the ripe ol age of 42. I’m going to have a GREAT life. So I’m excited to try kratom. I’m so tired of going the the pharmacy every week ya know? So thankyou. Now I have to figure out my budget (Disability)But THANKYOU!
Just found this kratom bible!!!! I appreciate it being broke down like this..I’m more confident that I’m not wasting my kratom now. It seems I have some concentration issues and staying focused on what I’m told..this will be a great reference to order and understand thanks
i mix the bali and red vein together and put it in my sweet tea reduces my pain and can tolerate my pain to when i mix it and put it in my tea my pain is not as bad as it was .
<acronym title=""meang da kratom~~which do I order???
I received my order of White Maeng Da two days ago. I cannot believe the energy this product has given both myself & husband. I am beyond thankful!! I used to stay in bed until 2 or 3 pm. I was awake & ready to start our day by 9 am!!!! Truly a miracle!! thanking you all, sincerely, Myrtle Jean Zimmerman
Hi All, great info thank-you Im just starting with kratom and the bali type as been suggested as im a chronic pain sufferer, I’m wonderinf what one would be best for strongest pain relief and sedation effect?? Im in the UK so not sure with companies are best etc. But does anyone have any ideas which would be best for me?? Thanks
I would like to use k to wean of of methadone. Methadone helped me to”get legal”worth my opiate use, but is far more difficult to kick than any opiate that I have used. The hardest part of withdrawals for me is depression and fatigue. Any advice? I realize that this is not a medically tested advice, but I have no experience worth this stuff, so any info would help. Thank you.
I used kratom the 1st time when my dr dropped my methadone dose from 150 MG’s to 60 MG’s a day suddenly, which would I’m sure u k ow would send anyone I to nasty withdrawls. I started using Kratom and all I could say day after day was “I camt believe it”. I felt not just good,but great…no withdrawals, no problens…it gave me the strength and courage to to wean myself the rest if the way off so that I no longer had to live I. Fear of the dr deciding to “cut me off”. Do lots of research on kratom and keep your dose low, less truly is “more”…I feel “better” on the smaller doses. I also swith it up between strains to keep myself from developing a tolerance. I plan to soon wean myself off of the kratom too. This plant is amazing and can help so many people- it’ll be a very sad day when they make it illegal- which I’m sure they will 🙁
Good luck!!!
Just read your post. Remember everyone’s metabolism is different but in general I think this suggestion will help. Start your Kratom slowly at a low dose and maintain this dose as long as you can. Your fatigue and depression will lessen but some may remain. Tolerate it as long as you can to avoid developing a resistance to the Kratom. I use one level teaspoon (5 grams) in a cup of hot coffee. After I finish my coffee, I fill the cup with very warm water, mix it around then quickly swallow the Kratom leaf pulp. Have a glass of warm water ready if you have a hard time swallowing granular stuff. Now you are set. If this dose does not work, up your dosage by 1/2 teaspoon at a time until you find relief. Don’t forget to swallow the Kratom leaf pulp (granules) in the bottom of your coffee (or any hot beverage) cup. This will increase your effects and save you lots of money. As well, your relief lasts longer through the day. I started with Borneo Green but you may want to re-read the above article and use the combo of two strains of Kratom. Good luck brother and I think this will work for you as it has for many of my other opioid addicted friends.
This stuff will help with methadone withdrawal ive been on methadone for 5 years now and kratom helps
I just want to thank the publishers of this website. I agree with others that this is, by far, the most informative and helpful site I have found regarding Kratom Strains, its usage and dosage as well as providing recipes and other helpful hints. Kratom (Novice-2 months) has already enhanced my quality of life by reducing my anxiety and years of chronic pain. Thanks again everyone! Keep up the GREAT work!
I HAVE FIBRO C.F.S AN HAVE PAIN AN NO ENERGY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY THIS. HOW DO I ORDER ?
I am starting today. But I must say this is the most organized cluster of information that I’ve read so far. Thank you.
I would however like to know how to rid of the “share” list on the side. It is right in the middle of the page and VERY ANNOYING because I can’t see the entire page. PLEASE tell me what I need to do to rid of it while I’m reading. Thanks.
What i would do if the share list bothers you Dale is to hold down CTRL and push the – button at the top of your keyboard just to the right of the 0. This will reduce the size of your text so you can see around the share strip.
at first I was skeptical but after trying it I’ve got to say this plant really its Great,I’m using it for opiate withdraw right now and 1 teaspoon every 6 to 8 Hours keeps me strait all day(and nights), this plant must’ve bin creative by God to help with this for sure…
what did you buy i dont know whick to buy im a first timer and detoxing off methadone….plz help amy
Hi…which one are you using?
This is a very well written and very informative article on one of the best medicinal herbs on Earth. I was using strong pain medications,anxiety and
depression medications to deal with the death of my younger brother. I am now drug free of all medications and I feel that
kratom was total gift from the Heavens… If you or anyone you know is suffering from pain, stress, depression or exhaustion please look into Mitraygna Speciosa… P.L.U.R. be blessed
this is the most informative source i have found. new to kratom but not new to pain. red sumatra is my first at 3 tsp total throughout the day and is quite effective. thank you. sheila
I knew kratom was working for me when I was driving and had zero road rage!! It works!!
Now I could actually sit through church if this is what would be presented. Ty…
& much respect.
This is a kickass bible. The most info I could find. So thankful for this page. Thanks a lot to whoever put this bible together!!
Thank you so much for all this information! I have chronic pain & fatigue caused by Limb-Girdle Muscular dystrophy. I would love to get off the Fentanyl patch I’m on. Do I have to stop taking patch before I start kratom? I bought a few samples to try it out. How much should I buy to get started. I’m on a fixed income.
Hi,
i would like some information on were to get this, i suffer from Cronin Pain day in and day out, i am not currently taking any pain med because i refuse to, but i think this could be life changing for me, please let me know were i can purchase this.
Thank you Jackie
Can anyone tell me where to get this and what kind? I would be using it for pain and narcotics withdrawal… help please.
The starter pack is a great option so that you will have a rotation to keep your tolerance low http://www.happyhippoherbals.com/index.php
purchasing the 4oz. can save you a few bucks over buying 1oz. As far as which kind to buy it depends on whether you want mellow ,lively,or in between. They do a good job of describing all of the products though.
Are there any vitamins that I should not take with Kratom? While vitamin C seems to boost the effects I see that magnesium lowers addiction threshold? I was just wondering. I guess I will experiment after this weekend and see if any of my vitamins have negative side effects with Kratom. Also I see that it is fine to rotate which is what I am doing to lower addiction threshold. Is it fine to take Green Malaysian and then take some Bali about an hour after to help my chronic pain? The pain is almost constant and I don’t know when episodes will stet in. Thank you.
I would buy it for chronic pain as I have RA, fibro, and my spine is in stage 3 spinal degeneration. I need to know if anyone has any knowledge if it has ever been associated with stomach bleeding like other n saids because I also have had a stroke and am on coumadin.
I have been looking for instructions on what to use for each symptom. This is perfect.
Kratom has given me the best pain relief I have ever had. I have an AI liver disorder so I have to watch what I take. No NSAIDs at all. I have been on oxy and Xanax for 10 yrs. I have not taken either since Kratom. Not one withdrawal symptom. My pain went from 8-10 to 2-0. Thank You Thank You Thank You to my friend Steph who introduced me to this miracle.
Which strain do you take, how much and how often?
This was really good info. If you are looking for quality kratom for a good price n good service I suggest kwikkratom by far the best prices and very high quality… O and free shipping on anything..
This plant has saved my life!! I have been on pain med for 10yrs and very large amt provided by my Dr. I decided enough is enough but could never handle the Dr’s from it. Well due to finding out about this I now have 5 days clean and have barely noticed not taking my Med. Thano you for providing more information as I am also pray in it will continue to help control my pain lol as I do suffer from fibromyaGia and sever conic migrants so far this has been a blessing. Barely any pain !!!
My wife is depressed and has no motivation. I want her to try it, but she’s a nurse and she’s afraid that it will make her fail a drug test. Being a nurse they give random drug test all the time. I read that it doesn’t give a false positive. I’m wanting to confirm it doesn’t and help her. It helps me tremendously for my knee and leg pain.sHe also has leg pain from working 12 hours a day. If there’s anyone that can help i greatly appreciate it!!
Will not show or create false positives.
Kratom has helped through opiate withdrawl. It is very good for the physical side of withdrawl but even better for the very difficult mental side.
I am clean from opiates now. In the past I would have been drinking alcohol and smoking hash in the evenings to overcome boredom and anxiety. Now I just take a little Kratom and I,m fine. I will shortly drop the kratom to. I,ve reduced from an ounce a day to a few grams. Its not easy but much easier than anything else I have tried over 30 odd years. I agree with others that Kratom should be used to help addicts and addiction. Parking people on methadone and subutex is not the way forward. Kratom is !
Help promote Kratom. Tell the western world all about it. No doubt they will ban it soon but I really hope not.
Good luck
Peace
Ooops, nearly forgot. Nobody seems to promote Sumatran white vein Kratom. Its very strong, stimulating and gives great energy.
Read all the comments to the end and funny about yours…I’m a new user of this product and found out this morning that indeed the white S is strong…energy. I was wondering why I was itchy too. Lots of energy. I’m not needing that, so really helped me with your comment. Thank you
So if I mix some kratom with water then freeze it over night the next day I can put it in some tea? Do I put it I the tea while I’m bringing that to a boil? Or after? Or do I just warm up the frozen kratom tea? Thank so much for this website!! Best information I could find! I’ve been using for about 6 months and love it!! I mix a teaspoon in about an Oz or two of water. My husband has to make pills. I’ve actually grow to like the muddy taste lol
I’m a nurse and work long 12 hr shifts and at the end of the second 12 hr shift in a row, I ache all over. On my days off, I’m recovering and can barely get out of bed at 1:00 in the afternoon. I think I could benefit from all of them, reds for pain, green for cognitive effects and white for energy. Now to just figure out where to buy?
I have only been using Kratom for about four months and I am still amazed at the pain relieving qualities it possesses. I have daily pain and depression/anxiety and suffer from agoraphobia but after using kratom, I have actually gone out of the house more in the past four months than I have in years! I rotate the strains so I don’t build a tolerance, but I’m not in bed sulking anymore!!! Thank you for creating this site. I usually order from Kratom-k website and have had nothing but great results. I hope this site reaches the eyes of the medical community so they know what a gift it is.
This page is exactly what you titled it, “The Bible!” I have been reading this entire site and hand writing my own notes since 4:30! I used to be very close to a pro female body builder.Now? Ive a fracture in my back from 4 yrs ago that mended on its own,and they want to do surgery.I’ve just been told after being bedridden for almost 5 months that I’ve got fibromyalgia and not weak and chronic pain from being in bed 5months!I cant do anything I was doing this time last year at all. Ive gained 70 lbs! No energy at all. I’ve heard of Kratom and decided today to read about it after popping pain pills. Ive been on xanax 24 yrs and been told by dr’s (6) that I cant stop or be winged down off them or it will kill me. I dont believe them . Im also on adderall for A.D.D.! Antidepressants.im ready to put the pills down. Im wanting to give this Kratom a try. All I can do is “try ” right! I do love the info your site has on each vein color and strain. Seems I truly need each type you have written about. I will order the variety starter package on Wdaresay and let you know how things go. Thanks for the Bible. Oh, I live in Iowa too. Lol. But my best friend lives in Nebraska and she’s going to pay for it and it will be delivered in Nebraska. I will sign the right to sell Kratom everywhere. thanks
I have looked every where for information to start understanding kratom this is the best article.
I started using kratom 1 week ago & it had changed my life. I was taking 2 norco 10s/350 every 6 hours for almost 2 years. I’m mixing primal red with Bali red + Dayak White + Bali green (totaling 3 grams) then before bed, 2 grams of Bali red & Sumatra red. (for the last week). I have gotten a full weeks worth of great sleep for the first time in 16 years. Between kratom and cannibis I am fully functional, my chronic pain is now a 2-3 max compared to a constant 6-10, I don’t have opioid hang overs anymore & I’m not walking around crazy high all the time. Just based on the effects long term on my organs, the kratom is a no brainer.
Are you still using Kratom? Can you update for us?
A great resource this article is. Me, I’m an experienced kratom user, and I’d like to say that prefer the Green Veins. It’s just like page says: an ‘uplifting’, cheery antidepressant effect that’s counterbalanced by a subtle relaxant effect. Oh man, you get a good batch of Green Malaysian and you’ve got it going on! Good Green Malaysian will be very dark, deep green. Much darker green than any other kratom strain. Green Vein Thai isn’t quite as potent as Green Malay (nor as dark)– it takes about 1/3 more to get a similar effect — but it’s also good. Just be careful not to take too much at one time because you’ll shake like a rattlesnake for a couple of hours. Find an amount that lifts your depression and just stick with that amount always.
Please publish my comments as widely as possible. You have my absolute permission to tell all interested people what I have to say.I hope what I’m asking is acceptable to this site, if not, please notify me of that!
My name is Michael M. Judge. I had a prescription drug problem 30 years past that came to the inevitable crisis while I was halfway through the MD/JD program at a major university. Things happened and I lost my scholarship, both careers, wife and everything of value in my life. By the grace of God and the help of AA, I immediately got sober and have remained so since.
Unfortunately, I was rear-ended by a drunken young woman going ~80mph, without even applying brakes, on April 16,1996. I was in almost perfect physical shape at the time. I was physically indestructible, so I thought.
Imagine my horror, when several years later, my doctor concurred on the fact that to live with the now excruciating pain that made me totally non-functional and suicidal, I needed the same drugs that I allowed to nearly kill me in 1985!
Paradoxically, I became functional again after using them and finally having my ADHD correctly diagnosed and treated. I now know why my judgment had been so impaired.
Being a pain patient has proven to be a hundred times worse than being what I was in 1985. In fact,I am now being forced to make my own pain medication from kratom. Thank God I was a chemist for 10 years! My crime that has given an excuse for 17 physicians to turn me away these past 20 months, I have severe pain and there is now a war on against the use of reasonable amounts of opiates for anything other than mild to moderate pain.
My plan is to organize the approximately 60 million American citizens, in pain, to make their wills be known and to speak with one voice against the fanatics in medicine and the government who are systematically removing our stated medical and legal rights for effective pain treatment. First, we need to keep kratom as a legal alternative to opiates that are proving to be unattainable even by physicians properly treating pain patients. Let’s not consider the drug addicts masquerading as pain patients! They are the main reason for this war.
Undertreated chronic pain makes life unlivable and will eventually kill the sufferer. I am an ordained minister, so was Martin Luther King when 22 million black citizens finally spoke with one voice. They have changed things.
It’s not inevitable that kratom be made illegal. Illinois did that very thing a couple of years ago, voters spoke and it became legal again. It’s now time for all pain patients in America and those who love them to tell medicine and the government what to do about us. We are not the vermin that we get treated as and it is time to stand against this tyranny.
It has become clear that organized medicine and the government cares nothing for people in serious pain. If not for kratom, I would be dead. Anyone interested in joining this struggle, contact me. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from the nearly half of the US population involved.
Hi Michael,
I have also spent 1/4 of my 40 years in severe pain from endometriosis and a few other conditions with my reproductive system. It has caused me to miss out on many things in life for anywhere’s from 1 week to more than a month at a time. I have also had issues with pain medication and have a doctor that has been prescribing me anything I need for my entire adult existence. I do not like the depression and fear of being without pain meds at the wrong times, that comes along with using them. I recently have quit a few times and had to resume using a few times when the pain becomes unbearable, to the point where I actually wish to commit homicide and /or suicide. I discovered Kratom last month, when suggested by a friend. It has saved me on several occasions and continues to do so. I do not have the luxury of researching and ordering and mixing brands so I’ve been getting ripped off by local smoke & vape shops out of desperation. Would you please share with me the best kind and dose for pain for daytime and nighttime? I have bad insomnia, as well so it seems that I have a choice, pain or sleeping. I would like to do both. Thanks so much. Let me know what I can do to help your cause and keep this legal.
I’m on board with the fight against our government – DEA – FDA & How NOW all seem to be against chronic pain sufferers. What do I do to help you fight this B.S…..You can email me at [email protected].
My story is similar to yours kind of & I’m gonna apologize right now this story is gonna be LONG and possibly complicated at times….
I was a very active young adult and continued to be even more active as an adult i.e-cheerleader throughout school years-I became a flight attendant for 28 years until my 28year old son had a tragic accident on December 22, 2011 – then sadly after 5 months in and out of ICU passed away in May of 2012 – which LITERALLY destroyed me breaking not only my heart but my soul, spirit and for quite awhile my will to live.
However PRIOR to Dec 2011-again I had my career I LOVED – I also played on a women’s city B league softball team off and on until early 40s (I’m now 53) and played different types of volleyball(grade school-high school – then from age 19 – on a wallyball league til mid 20’s- regular recreational volleyball and water volleyball until 2009.. So as you can see I WAS very active. However, beginning in late 90’s started having issues with back pain- by 2004 – I was sent/referred/forced to the Pain Management Clinics. At first I must admit because I LOVED pain meds-100% was drug of choice-so quite honestly I thought I had died n gone to Happy Heaven when at my 1st appointment, told to come back every 28 days for medication refills and that was gonna be- EVERY 28 days-and lol I was so shocked-they thought I had a problem and would be a continuing reluctant patient. BUT at the beginning-the first “high” part I felt(witch to this women was the BEST FEELING I HAD EVER FELT since even though I drank alcohol here and there, smoked weed throughout Highshcool and experimented here n there in my early 20’s with cocaine and “crank”, on occasion..BUT due to me, I guess luckily, NEVER felt satisfied or loving the effects-BUT PAIN MEDS-fell in LOVE) Which of coarse subsided after time & my body became more and more tolerant-even though I continued (per doctor) to be upped & upped & upped – and apparently I was either a so called “goody two shoes” or too afraid to not break the rules of the clinic-because although I no longer got “high” – my ligament pain WAS being treated and I could continue my life without PAIN. And honestly as time went on & I would witness alot of the people around me in the waiting room looking so scared, sickly, and a mess – I in no way had Judgement (I’ve ALWAYS felt – to each their own, I don’t walk in other’s shoes, and always knew I knew Nothing of another person’s struggles AND life IS HARD, CHALLENGING & DIFFICULT at times n some ALL of the time-So yeah I wasn’t judging-I was just too scared, busy, had 3 growning sons and a career I loved- so for me even though it was tempting ALOT to start abusing-LUCKILY I really didn’t outta fear.
However from starting pain meds in January of 2004 by January 2011- I was taking 160 mgs TWICE A DAY of Oxycontin PLUS 240 mgs of oxycodone for breakthrough pain EVERY DAY AND I was supposed to take 4 Soma’s a day but really I only took as needed once in awhile.
Now I even knew that was a lot of medication (& I was NOT a heavy women- I was 5’5″ & 120-125 pounds) & that dosage of meds – that would kill a herd of elephants- didn’t even phase me except with giving me major pain relief.
Not too many people in my extremely active life even knew I was taking medication and had been for so many years.
Now around and about that time is when the WAR on PAIN MANAGEMENT/Opiate dependency and addiction and the DEA and everyone who CLEARLY didn’t know OR understand & STILL DOESN’T-the TRUE FACTS nor HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH LIVING IN DAILY CHRONIC PAIN! We ALL have been lumped together and CATEGORIZED and JUDGED as PILL SEEKING LYING JUNKIES-PERIOD!!!!
Which in turn-made DEA shutdown my clinic and so many others. My primary care physician DID help me and took over my care YET DEFINITELY WAS NOT TOO THRILLED OR COMFORTABLE and constantly lectured me on the dangers. Then due to my hidden fear of an accident happening to me surrendering me unconscious-family getting upset, concerned, worried & focusing on me- WHAT IF they would forget to tell the hospital doctors the 3.75 hydrocodone/vicodine WOULD NOT ONLY NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT BUT I’D PROBABLY BE IN ADDED SUFFERING FROM WITHDRAWALS. So I AM THE ONE WHO ASKED MY PCP WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I GOT LOWERED OR OFF THESE HIGH DOSES OF MEDICATION-lol he said of coarse, “Let’s try it and go from there” & sent me to a “specialist” who was SUPPOSED to 1st WEEN me to a safer lower dose and over time get me “off” INSTEAD he made me go COLD TURKEY with a low dose of suboxin-and come back EVERY DAY FOR TWO WEEKS–only my body didn’t take well to the suboxin NOR THE MAJOR MAJOR WITHDRAWAL THAT ALMOST KILLED ME-and in turn COULDN’T PHYSICALLY/MENTALLY or EMOTIONALLY get back to his office…The person that LITERALLY kept me alive-force feeding me liquids, eventually food vitamins n supplements-was my 27 year old(at the time) son, with certain additions of his own, which honestly probably made it possible for him to know what to do to help me (unbeknownst at the time would pass away the following year) Took a month before I could go home 4 hours away..Yet I was MISERABLE, IN UNBEARABLE DEBILITATING PAIN and had to take more time off work…But when I did return-On my 4hour drive there-I got in a car accident injuring my back even more but added major neck injury…
Unfortunately because my DOCTOR/DEA/PHARMACY records showed my history-it took months before Doctors realized non narcotic medication WASN’T HELPING ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM NOR WAS THE 10-20mg short acting oxycodone WASN’T EITHER n due to my reaction of withdrawal months before-I REFUSED LONG ACTING OXYCONIN and went years just having limited life n a Pain level of constant 5-8…
However once I lost my son and again the following year pretty much EVERYONE and EVERYTHING-including health insurance, my longtime doctor selling his practice and doctors giving up DEA licences(or saying so)in fear of their perception of the DEA CRACKDOWN AND MD PRACTITIONERS/LICENSES BEING REVOKED- I ended up in a very dark dark place and DID start abusing…Luckily though I COULDN’T continue my journey..
I somehow regained part of what and who mattered that was lost and got back into a not great PAIN MANAGEMENT but helped with my debilitating pain issues…
THEN I moved to the coast of Oregon which has very strict laws regarding pain management. No doctor on the coast or inland would take me on and because I retired after my son passed I luckily could fly back to home state EVERY 28 days UNTIL SPRING BREAK BEGAN and couldn’t get back… Luckily my then neighbor in OR-talked her doctor ON THIS COAST to treating me and SHE WAS AWESOME,UNDERSTANDING AND ACTUALLY HELPED ME GET ON RIGHT DOSES (yes still opiates due to the effectiveness) but only so I could be productive enough for not only quality of life but different avenues for seeking more avenues of hopeful help…
Then the “normal/regular” doctor who was to treat just the pain management aspect of the practice returned from leave due to her accident that required her to be in pain management only because Oregon DEA laws were in place for new chronic pain patient I’m sure her dose is minimal…
I am going to somehow try and prove my case in a malpractice suit against her BECAUSE during my 1st and what ended up being only visit -AMONG OTHER DEA GUIDELINES THAT WRRE NOT FOLLOWED she CUT my meds down and called me 2weeks later to tell me she’s referred me to Pain Clinic(I found out recently-the 1she uses) Was denied by that clinic and given 3-5days of clonidine and nausea meds n told to cold turkey again..and have been bedridden and in major pain for about a month.. Then THANKFULLY found Kratom site and my husband found a “specialist” to hopefully help FIX my back and neck issues but needed a referral,so called doctors office thinking the main doctor I originally saw and loved and she is in complete shock, disagreement with what happened and tried to vouge along with the office staff on my behalf of LOW RISK PATIENT. Apparently to no avail because a week after calling in for referral for doctor my husband found I was called and informed the BULLSHIT doctor will NOT refer me until SHE examines my back and neck HERSELF that her schedule prevails me of an appointment for few weeks.
Now that I have Kratom to help – I’m SO READY TO FIGHT THIS INJUSTICE THAT IS GETTING WAY OUTTA HAND!!!!!!
I am so sorry to hear about your accident and the pain you are in. Yes, I agree we need to keep kratom legal and make it legal in states that have outlawed it. How can the average citizen get involved?
Pls contact me the fight of keeping Kratom legal, for all the seriously highly addicted young ppl in our country, suffering opiate withdraw is a living hell nightmare,causing young ppl flooding the jail system. Fully knowing that this is a chronic disease, that is taking our younger generation down.
I am an ex meth addict. I’ve been clean 8 years. I am in chronic pain. I’ve had surgery and dr appointment after appointment. No one can help. I’ve got green and white in my lap now. Im terrified it will react with my antidepressants and have severe side effects. Any knowledge you can spare? Please reassure me I’ll be ok
Hi..I have had 3 back surgeries,DJD, fibromyalgia..In CONSTANT pain! Could you help me with what kratom and dosage to start with? I’m curranly on 5mg of vicodan 2x a day and it doesn’t touch my pain 🙁 I also have light depression from having my back injury in 2012, no energy.. Thank you! Donna
Thanks for sharing information about something which can heal and help people.
“As awareness increases” expect the FDA Psychpathic Control Freaks to BAN Kratom, which is already well in the works. Why people allow these psycho-goons to tell them what to do is beyond me. FDA should be BANNED and all of them hung from the nearest tall bridge, along with their evil buddies at MonSatan (Monsanto). Enjoy your last little bit of freedom while you can. They demonize every good thing and promote their POISONOUS, CANNIBALISTIC garbage as “good.”
No yellow strains listed? When you brew tea you run 2 setting of water through it not one. for example for 10 grams run 1 cup of water for 15-20 minutes. Drain the water, run another cup through for 15-20 minutes. Kinda disappointed by this guide. The red veins cause wobble not borneo or true borneo or bali… true borneo is just something you guys made up. The only reason they call it borneo is because that is where they used to go to sell it from bali or vice versa. There is green bornio, red, white etc. Dramamine and ginger are your best cures for wobbles. borneo and bali are the same thing. Red vien causes me more anxiety then any other strain.
I have a question. A vendor gave me analysis report. I would love to tell about quality. Mitragyna 2.9-3.3 %, Alkaloids 12.21 %, Flavonoid 1.64 %, and Phenol 1.88 %. What can I refer to to find out if the ranges are good quality or consider low? Any pages to refer me. Thanks
I’ve been taking this stuff for years now and I would be happy to answer anybody’s questions that they may have. I’m quite familiar with pretty much all aspects of it other than the harvesting of it and I’m ok with that! 🙂 Kratom really is great but there’s a fine line there and it’s real easy to step on it and over it….many times. So be careful. Contact me with any questions about anything or if you just wanna talk. I was an addict to opiates for over 10 years…was taking up to 60, yes 60, vicodin per day. Went through the hellish methadone program…WOW, that’s the worst. Been in rehabs…blah blah blah. You get the picture. I’m not sure if I should put my phone number on here or not so let’s just start with email and go from there. It’s nice to talk to someone that’s down to earth and has been through it or is going through it. God bless!
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Which types work best for opiate withdrawal? I take 3 to 4 oxy’s a day. Just want to stop them and do something natural. Thx for any help you can give me
Keith
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Sounds like we have a lot of the sam experiences. Would like learning more about how to use kratom for opiate withdrawal. I don’t would to cross any lines.
Keith, I’ve just sent you an e-mail. Thanks for your openness.
I understand it’s been almost a year since you posted, but I hope you can help anyway. I’ve been a chronic pain sufferer for over a decade & medicated for the past 8 years. I also have a major fatigue problem predating the pain. The information I can find seems to scream that in order for me to get the major pain relief I need, I’ll have to settle on a kratom that will put me to sleep. That’s exactly what the Kratom I was given is doing to me as I type this as well. I need something for rather severe pain that will not make me drowsy at all – preferably more energetic. I truly want to be free of opiates and the death wish inducing “hangover” & pain that I feel every time I wake up. I can’t live like this with young children. Thank you!
hey man i had a question.
Do you know where I can find Kratom Analysis reports on the different percentages of Mitragynine contained in various strains of kratom?
thans
Awesome concise and VERY in depth guide. Definitely a gem on this subject especially for newbies wary of getting into kratom. Keep spreading awareness of the amazing benefits of what kratom can do for health conditions! Thank you
I love this website. I use it for reference all of the time and Kratom has improved my life dramatically in more ways than one.
I just started to take kratom..im using maeng da..2 days ago I quit taking my Norco 10s,so yesterday I started kratom..so get this I had 0 withdraw!!!unbelievable!!! oh and I have been on Norco for years,,,
Kratom saved my life
i can not see any reason to take it off the market ive been using it for years
So needed this. Pray they lift the ban!
S A V E K R A T O M ! KEEP KRATOM LEGAL! Call everyone in power to put a STOP to this absurd federal ban the DEA crooks have put in place for September 30th! The DEA did it before the elections, while everyone in power is busy! They want to make the alkaloids Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine as a SCHEDULE 1 substance! WORDS F**KING FAIL ME! This will make the entire Kratom plant illegal! THIS IS A FILTHY MOVE BY THE DEA! They’ll target your tea and coffee next! Sign the White House petition! Make phone calls to the DEA, senators, representatives, and your congressmen/congresswomen! Be polite, but firm. DON’T GIVE UP! As upset, scared, and angry you may be, keep your composure when you call. You don’t have to go into scientific detail, just let them know that this will stall so much scientific and medical research, and ruin so many people’s lives, including me! Opioid abuse and drug crime will skyrocket! Even many police officers are against this ban! Make sure they get the message! Also, I am a skeptic, and Kratom actually worked for me! WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER! Don’t stand for this ban! KRATOM SAVES LIVES! I’M ONE OF THEM! Don’t just stand around! DO SOMETHING!
“Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves” – Abraham Lincoln
You should offer the Bible as downloadable link for a pdf or an ebook file for a tablet. It would read better on a tablet that way over reading in the browser.
A lot of good information here, but it they are incorrect in a fundamental aspect of characterizing stains as either stimulating or relaxing. Such properties are determined predominantly by vein color, not country or region of cultivation. White vein is stimulating; red vein is relaxing, regardless of country of origin. For example, red vein Thai or red Maeng Da are relaxing stains, while a white veined Borneo is stimulating. I hope they, along with many other sites, will rethink and correct their method of classification. There are websites out there that have it right, but this is by far the most common misconception that I have seen.
Additionally, of importance is the fact that Kratom, like coffee, is a diuretic (it makes you pee), so drink plenty of water. It is also constipating, though not as severe as opioids. An occasional cup of tea with sienna should serve you well.
Lastly, most will find that blended with a chocolate beverage of their choice is is the most palatable way to consume Kratom powder, best blended in a small or “bullet” blender.
God has given us a most amazing medicinal plant. I hope it helps you as much as as much as its helped this former opioid addict.
I started using Kratom about 9 months ago. It is an amazing and wonderful herb. I have heard some people having negative affects from the herb and even addictions. I can happily report that I have used it successfully with out any harmful affects, whatsoever. I tried several different varieties of Kratom, and found that for me White Maeng Da works the best. I use kratom to control restless leg syndrome and sciatica pain, also at times I have used it for insomnia. There is no over the counter or prescription drug from my past that can compare, in effectiveness! 🙂
I’ve been using kratom and it has helped my narcolepsy more than any prescription that my doctor has had me try.
Kratom has helped reduce my pain and anxiety and has improved my focus. I love it but think I might be forming a tolerance to it that affects its effects on me. I ordered the beginners pack and am taking a tea mixture of white/green in the morning (4 grams) and the red at night in tea form also 4 grams. Is it better to make the tea or toss and wash for the best effects?
Thx for all this good info! I’ve been taking Kratom for quite a few months now & it’s been life changing for me. This is very informative! I was wondering why I haven’t built up any tolerance to it & it’s because I take a lot of calm magnesium every day (sometimes 2 x a day) . . . God bless! Sharon
I am among those of you who have written before me, I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia, degenerative disc disease, stenosis, diabetes, cervical spondylosis, arthritis which causes spurs in all my joints including my spine, had low back and 2 neck surgeries and now have diffuse herniated discs above and below all surgery sites. It has been 4 years of pure hell. I don’t even bother going to the doctor anymore. I have found my way out of the horrific maze of the over worked, burnt out surgeons, doctors, and nurses who no longer care about patients with real pain because they deal with dope seekers so much, the sight of any patient is a pain for them~ I have gone through the death of the woman I once was to the agonizing birth of a medical catastrophe, a woman of 50 who could not take care of herself much less her husband, grand children , pets, or her once beautiful 3,000 square foot home and the 2 acres it sits on. My spiritual relationship and kratom have been my saving grace. I would venture to guess I would be dead by my own hands had it not been for those two things. Taking kratom is the only way it is possible for me to have anything resembling a life that includes the hope of a future. I am typing this by the grace of my God and the pain relief found in kratom. I advise anyone and everyone who has been helped by kratom to become an advocate so we can keep it legal. I know I am not alone in the war against pain and the people who don’t care what that means. It is the difference in hope for a future and being in a nursing home. It is not losing our marriages and our families and friends. Kratom is a plant. A plant that God made full of beneficial properties that save and give back the lives of people struck by tragedy. Don’t be one of those numb skulls that search for the next high. Be an advocate for the legality of a plant, a member of the coffee family of plants that allows people who live in constant pain to get out of bed on their own. If you think you want or need that, research for months like I did before you take it. Arm yourself with knowledge about what you are putting in your body, find relief, and FIGHT FOR IT. This article is just one, a very good one, of many you can find if you are at your wits end and don’t think you can go on. You can. I’m doing it. If I can, so can you. Thanks for hearing me.
i luv this stuff I have lymes n the pain sucksssss…o hate advil aleve aspirin and almost all otc side effects..i could not even find relief naturally either. I tied ginger, tumeric, this that n everything else and barely anything. THs Kratom freagin worksssssss sooooo happpppy ….When your healing its important to realize u need to address pain as it can drive u mad!!!
I am really confused yet….I do know that this stuff sounds WONDERFUL!!!! I do know that I have pain everyday from Fibromyalgia, COPD, Arthritis, a Rectocele, ( which is a fallen Rectum) and beleive me with al of that, also my nerves on the very edge…..It is keeping me from living my life to the fullest….I cannot muster up no energy to do the normal day to day things that I am use to, I am on disability….My grandchildren are suffering because I don’t feel like having them over or taking them anywhere no more. Please Help Me….
It’s me again….I dont think I said what I was meaning to get through….All of this makes no sense to me, NO, I have not read the Kratom Bible but I will….what I’m trying to say is, the language is all new to me….The color of Veins, wobbling head, green vein, NONE of it is saying anything to me. It’s not suppose to because I am not educated on it. I just want to know how I can find out what is out there that is SAFE for me to take to feel better…..NO PAIN, No DEPRESSION, NO CHRONIC FATIGUE……I need the guidance to help me to show me what is the right stuff for me and the right dosage……I could read this 10x and still not know. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME…..????
If this enhances your immune system should it be avoided by people with autoimmune issues? Autoimmune is an overactive immune system and people have to take medications to reduce it so if you start taking things that boost it isn’t that going to make it worse? Just curious because I would like to try this but I have RA and my white blood cell count is already double normal, I don’t need it to go any higher.